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Meet Our Leadership Team

Adam B. Downs Ph.D, LMFT


Adam B. Downs, Ph.D, LMFT is the founder of What Good Looks Like, LLC (WGLL). Before starting WGLL, he was the Chief Clinical Officer for Bradford Health Services headquartered in Birmingham Alabama. Dr. Downs joined Bradford in May of 2016 to develop and oversee the emerging adult programs ranging from primary care, intensive outpatient programs, long term recovery residence and education for college campus student organizations and student athletes. He was named Chief Clinical Officer in September of 2018 his focus was then to oversee all clinical operations and to continue to grow the clinical programing using evidence based/best practice models.

Before joining the team at Bradford, he was an Associate Professor at the University of Alabama’s School of Medicine – Tuscaloosa Campus in the department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Medicine and was in Student Health Administration as Director of Substance Abuse Services at the University of Alabama (UA).  

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Dr. Downs’ primary focus at the UA was to develop programs and services for college students who either struggling with the transition to college or had lost their study – life balance and where not maximizing their potential. Over the course of almost 5 years of service to UA Dr. Downs was able to develop and implement multiple levels of educational, clinical and peer support programs that made a valuable impact in the lives of hundreds of students. Those programs are still standing today making a difference in the lives of countless young men and women at the university.

Dr. Downs is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in the state of Alabama and a member of the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapy and the Alabama Association of Marriage and Family Therapy. He is happily married to Dr. Karly J. Downs who is a professor at UA and they have two little girls that keep them on their toes at all times.

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Clark Converse, CPSS


Clark is a behavioral health entrepreneur. He is the Founder of Turning Point Recovery in Southaven, Co-Founder of BoCo Health in Memphis, and Co-Founder of WGLL, LLC.  where he is driven by individual successes and organizational excellence. Clark also does public speaking and leadership training. 

Clark is originally from Jackson, Miss. He graduated from Miss State University’s business school in 1995 where he was a member of Sigma Alpha Epsilon. Clark began his new life of being clean, sober in 2006 and started his life as an entrepreneur in 2009.


He resides in Brownsville, TN with his wife Mamie and his four kids Clayton, Katie, Camille, and CJ. Clark is a driven person always working hard to help individuals create a life worth living but most importantly he is a husband, dad, and son.

Katie Jame


Katie holds a Bachelor of Business Administration from Goizueta Business School of Emory University, with an emphasis in Organization Management and Finance. She also received a Masters of Commerce from the University of New South Wales, with an emphasis on Organizational Behavior and Management.


She has spent the past 10 years working in the HR Consulting industry partnering with corporations to optimize their workforce and navigate organizational change.  She first worked for Aon Hewitt Consulting in Atlanta where she was on the communications and leadership development team.  She then transferred to their Sydney Australia office where she worked as both an internal consultant focused on the design of their Asia Pacific HR function, processes, and technology, and as an HR Business Partner where she supported the Global Risk Division. 

Since moving back to the states, she has worked with Camden Delta Consulting for the past 7 years.  She has worked with a broad range of industries and managed projects focused on developing HR strategy, navigating organizational change, implementing strategic workforce planning, and creating talent management programs.

Katie lives in Lexington, KY where is happily married to her husband Dr. Russell Jame.  They have two crazy boys keep them very busy.  She loves her community and is involved at the Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd and is Co-President of PTO at her children's school.

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Ryan Powell

Raised outside of Atlanta, Ryan attended Emory University for both his undergraduate and master's degrees.  His first professional job was serving as the Panhellenic Advisor at Emory University. He then transitioned to the Assistant Director of Student Activities and Campus Events for Fraternity and Sorority Life at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, FL.


In 2012 Ryan married his high school sweetheart and moved to Tuscaloosa, AL where he served as the Assistant Director and IFC Advisor for the Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life. In 2015 Ryan was promoted to the Associate Director of Fraternity and Sorority Life where he supervised the council advisors, oversaw organizational leadership and learning, and organizational conduct. In 2018 Ryan welcomed his first child, his daughter Juliette, into the world and became the Director of Greek Life at Auburn University.


In 2020 Ryan welcomed his second daughter, Emilia, into the world and transitioned to his current role as Director of Partner Relations for What Good Looks Like, LLC a private wellness consulting group that focuses on supporting undergraduate students in developing healthy lives. In his free time Ryan trains and teaches Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, practices Yoga, and enjoys playing with his two rescue pit bulls, Gus and Walter. 


Matt McKenzie M.A., LPC, NBHWC, Certified MINT Trainer

Matt obtained a Masters in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Alabama-Birmingham in 2016 and he is currently wrapping up his Ph. D. at the University of Holy Cross New Orleans. Matt is a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Alabama. He is a member, as well as a certified trainer, of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), and Matt is also a national board certified health and wellness coach (NBHWC).

Prior to joining the WGLL family in 2020, Matt worked under Dr. Downs to implement services and systems to support men ages 19 – 29 (“emerging adult”) through the typical challenges that are experienced in this life stage. 

Matt resides in Hoover, AL with his wife Meghan, son Braxton, dog Bucky, and cat Buddy. In his free time Matt trains Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. As a childhood stroke survivor Matt has learned to adapt. He is passionate about advancing and competing in adaptive jiu jitsu, and he recently won a match at the 2022 World Games (coached in match by WGLL’s Ryan Powell). Aside from jiu jitsu, Matt enjoys time with his family and friends.

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